[Big Changes] Dual Core AMD : New Shared Servers

**Kayla** · March 9th, 2006, 2:22 AM

We will now use a newer technology for our shared hosting base starting with SH96 and Pass56. As most of you know, for the past 3 years we have been using Dual Xeon 2.4 processors for shared servers. We have now leaped up to Dual Core AMD Opterons. Please read the articles below which will help you understand why we made this decision (or you may already be an AMD fan).

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...px?i=2397&p=10
http://www.networkworld.com/news/200...eathercom.html
http://www.sun.com/servers/entry/v20z/index.jsp

As you can see, it is well known that dual core AMD processors are out-performing the dual Xeons.

The cost is approximately 15% more than dual Xeons but based on the points below it will be a good investment and we are ready for this change:

1. AMDs use approximately 30% less power than dual Xeons. So this is a big plus since the electric bill gets very high.

2. Dual CORE CPU versus Dual XEON w/hyper threading CPU:
Dual Core is a real dual CPU versus a simulated one. See this:
http://www.intel.com/personal/deskto...popup/demo.htm

3. We ran a UNIX bench test:
Dual Xeon
=========
FINAL SCORE 172.3

Dual Core AMD
=========
FINAL SCORE 500.3

AMD provides flexibility and cushion for process intensive sites that burst in CPU usage. This way we can lessen adverse effects as much as possible for other users in a shared hosting environment.

Uptime is our #1 priority. Whether it is server uptime or network uptime.

**Emmanuel** · March 9th, 2006, 2:40 AM

This applies to all new shared and reseller servers

**removed** · March 9th, 2006, 2:43 AM

Hopefully this upgrade will make some of the "script gone insane" issues less noticeable. Props.

**Emmanuel** · March 9th, 2006, 3:02 AM

Yes, this will allow a bigger margin of cpu abuse without effecting clients as much.

bluenova · March 9th, 2006, 2:45 PM

Will this be rolled out to existing servers?

**Skipdawg** · March 9th, 2006, 7:00 PM

Sweet! Thanks you all are the greatest. Skippy huggs to all at Surpass.

**Kayla** · March 9th, 2006, 9:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluenova

Will this be rolled out to existing servers?

Not yet, this announcement is only for new servers.

**Bigjohn** · March 10th, 2006, 11:11 AM

Another reason I'm a surpass fan! (prolly the OLDEST one too...)
TO complete my understanding, will these be:

Servers with ONE opteron-x2
OR
Servers with TWO opteron-x2

Those graphs you pasted in don't show which one Surpass will be using vs which one you used to use...

Oh, Kayla? Can you fix the forums? The avatars and stuff are stuck to the top of the messages instead of off the left like they belong.

wickers · March 10th, 2006, 11:23 AM

few questions:

1. (guessing from one of the links above) Are you using sun boxen? (sun x64 servers get me hot and bothered.

)

2. I know you are only using these for new additions, but when could we expect the full shared server line to be updated?

3. Will you be taking advantage of the 64 bit-ness these servers will have with RHEL for AMD64? (not that we'd notice/need the difference) Or maybe you'll be using a different OS/setup?

4. Will you be taking advantage of the NX bit? (silly i know, but still wondering)

March 9th, 2006, 2:22 AM	#1 (permalink)
Kayla Surpass Staff Joined in May 2003 Lives in Orlando 23,934 posts Gave thanks: 904 Thanked 770 times	[Big Changes] Dual Core AMD : New Shared Servers We will now use a newer technology for our shared hosting base starting with SH96 and Pass56. As most of you know, for the past 3 years we have been using Dual Xeon 2.4 processors for shared servers. We have now leaped up to Dual Core AMD Opterons. Please read the articles below which will help you understand why we made this decision (or you may already be an AMD fan). http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...px?i=2397&p=10 http://www.networkworld.com/news/200...eathercom.html http://www.sun.com/servers/entry/v20z/index.jsp As you can see, it is well known that dual core AMD processors are out-performing the dual Xeons. The cost is approximately 15% more than dual Xeons but based on the points below it will be a good investment and we are ready for this change: 1. AMDs use approximately 30% less power than dual Xeons. So this is a big plus since the electric bill gets very high. 2. Dual CORE CPU versus Dual XEON w/hyper threading CPU: Dual Core is a real dual CPU versus a simulated one. See this: http://www.intel.com/personal/deskto...popup/demo.htm 3. We ran a UNIX bench test: Dual Xeon ========= FINAL SCORE 172.3 Dual Core AMD ========= FINAL SCORE 500.3 AMD provides flexibility and cushion for process intensive sites that burst in CPU usage. This way we can lessen adverse effects as much as possible for other users in a shared hosting environment. Uptime is our #1 priority. Whether it is server uptime or network uptime. __________________ Have you ever want to draw a windmill, and after that animate it? No problem!

March 9th, 2006, 2:40 AM	#2 (permalink)
Emmanuel CTO, Surpass Hosting Super #1 Joined in Apr 2003 Lives in Florida 1,794 posts Gave thanks: 9 Thanked 107 times	This applies to all new shared and reseller servers __________________ Emmanuel :: Surpass Hosting Network Admin http://www.SurpassHosting.com

March 9th, 2006, 2:43 AM	#3 (permalink)
removed Surpass Abuse Admin Super #1 Joined in Mar 2005 Lives in Houston, TX 7,579 posts Gave thanks: 10 Thanked 263 times	Hopefully this upgrade will make some of the "script gone insane" issues less noticeable. Props. __________________ Surpass Abuse & Security unofficial IRC chat: #surpass irc.blessed.net (efnet)

March 9th, 2006, 3:02 AM	#4 (permalink)
Emmanuel CTO, Surpass Hosting Super #1 Joined in Apr 2003 Lives in Florida 1,794 posts Gave thanks: 9 Thanked 107 times	Yes, this will allow a bigger margin of cpu abuse without effecting clients as much. __________________ Emmanuel :: Surpass Hosting Network Admin http://www.SurpassHosting.com

March 9th, 2006, 7:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
Skipdawg Insanely Super #1 Joined in Jul 2005 Lives in Northwest USA 4,154 posts Gave thanks: 39 Thanked 78 times	Sweet! Thanks you all are the greatest. Skippy huggs to all at Surpass. __________________

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bluenova Registered User Fresh Surpasser Joined in Apr 2005 21 posts Gave thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Will this be rolled out to existing servers?

March 10th, 2006, 11:11 AM	#8 (permalink)
Bigjohn minor deity Super #1 Joined in Apr 2004 Lives in Georgia Hosted on XEON 7,230 posts Gave thanks: 19 Thanked 91 times	Another reason I'm a surpass fan! (prolly the OLDEST one too...) TO complete my understanding, will these be: Servers with ONE opteron-x2 OR Servers with TWO opteron-x2 Those graphs you pasted in don't show which one Surpass will be using vs which one you used to use... Oh, Kayla? Can you fix the forums? The avatars and stuff are stuck to the top of the messages instead of off the left like they belong. __________________ Proud to be a Surmunity Mod! XEON PASS60 PASS61 Make a fundamental difference! My Sites: Curious about Brewing Beer? Join the community! >>>>> Some Change is GOOD! Keep your paycheck! Support the Fair Tax Get into an Art museum Victorian London It's your brain -*ON WEB* - mybrainhost.com (under development) What SHOULD Government do? Much Less than it Does!

March 10th, 2006, 11:23 AM	#9 (permalink)
wickers Registered User Seasoned Poster Joined in Mar 2006 Lives in Canada Hosted on pass94 88 posts Gave thanks: 0 Thanked 0 times	few questions: 1. (guessing from one of the links above) Are you using sun boxen? (sun x64 servers get me hot and bothered. ) 2. I know you are only using these for new additions, but when could we expect the full shared server line to be updated? 3. Will you be taking advantage of the 64 bit-ness these servers will have with RHEL for AMD64? (not that we'd notice/need the difference) Or maybe you'll be using a different OS/setup? 4. Will you be taking advantage of the NX bit? (silly i know, but still wondering) __________________ \\\\\\\\\\////////// http://www.theweeklyrant.com

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