David

But that doesn't really make it any less likely. You could have a server with 100 sites and a server with 1000 sites, but if whoever wants to do damage is looking for something that's on that server with 100, that's what's going to get hit. The number of sites on a server isn't always what determines who gets hit.

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Sure it does. The difference is that on a dedicated, those 100 sites you've allowed. There's a good chance you may have an idea of what kind of software they're using, and even issue out notifications of popular software updates. With a reseller account, you're at the mercy of who other resellers host and their practices.

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Considering that admins have to authorize all posts, and there have been many questions about the future of the OC plans, as a potential future user I would like to know what is going on with these plans??

Should I just forget them, or will there be a change coming soon?

Considering the number of requests for Admins to respond in this thread, it begs the question as to what the response times are when you actually have a problem!

Admins Please respond, offer some insight, or tell us nothing is going on with the OCs or that a change is pending or something, truthfully anything would help!

In truth, since this thread was started by Kayla, Kayla do you have a response?

Thanks

David

Mods are the ones approving the posts, but it would be nice to hear what's going on with some of this stuff.

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David

I somehow missed your post last night.

Without actually checking every account, you don't know. There is only a good chance if you're constantly sweeping through your server to find out everything that is on it, and checking against their current version. And that doesn't even consider the people who write their own stuff and may be using faulty code that you'd have to also go through and check to find out if it's exploitable or not. I can't see any difference here. If someone is looking to hit a site, they will. They aren't likely to check to see how many sites are on the server first.

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David this really just comes down to Statistical Probability, if you really want to get into it, 100 sites, 100 possiblities for a hit on a single server, 1000 sites, a 1000 possiblities for a hit on that server, and if you assume that for every 50 sites, an actual potential for exploitation is 2 then for the 100 sites you would have a potential for 4 hits, but on a server with 1000 you would have potential of 40, and as all may know it only takes 1 severe exploit to screw up a sever. All of this assumes of course a 4% potential for fatal flaws in user systems/code, but what if its actually something like 8%.. Ugh!

BTW, this really has nothing to do with the Bandwidth Increse, can this debate be moved so the real questions can be answered.

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There's really two types of resellers though; those that openly accept everyone and those that host selected clients. Unless you're just accepting everyone, like Surpass, you're going to typically have an idea of what type of site they're running.

For instance, many freelancers also provide hosting services to their client as part of a monthly free for hosting and maintaining. Others only host friends.

Of course it's possible for one of your "trusted" users to not update a script, but you'll often have more control. And when it comes to looking at clients code, I'd consider that a violation of their right to privacy.

All I'm saying is that you *can* make your server and clients safer through filtering. You can't control what others do though.

David

100 phpbb sites on a dedi, versus a shared server with 50. If someone is looking to exploit phpbb, than you have a bigger chance. It all depends on what someone is looking to hit, or who has pissed off someone and where they have their site located. I don't believe the number of sites on a server really has much to do with it, but more along the lines of the sites themselves.

And actually, this started out from the bandwith increase talks. No one is stopping the admins from answering, they just haven't. In fact, with each response, we bump the thread.

This is true, but it seems that in the reseller game, there are more people who are more of the "anyone can be hosted" type, due to how easy it can be to run (before someone comes in screaming about difficulties, I said can be). This is both under resellers and dedi clients though, because you've got to find a way to pay for what you're paying for yourself. Personally, I haven't yet met that and am wide open to anyone (that sounded really bad). I've considered going the route you just described though, but as most people would also think, it limits your possibilities for clients because you are in fact limiting yourself. In these cases though, it does just come down to what level of control someone wants to actually take and actually does do.

I need to get back to you about that list of stuff too. I haven't had time to re-read through that massive PM you sent me. Been slightly busy putting my new PC together and working on my million dollar idea.

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