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Old October 7th, 2003, 11:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I suppose this could be two questions really. I see that the edition of moodle software that is available through the fantastico link is outdated (1.9 and the latest version is 1.1.1). I would like to install the latest version. Is there a request process to have the fantastico software updated? Would I be able to install the latest version myself? It can be downloaded as either a .zip or .tz file from moodle.org. :ask:
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Old October 8th, 2003, 12:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Originally posted by monkeyboyOct 7 2003, 9.43 pm
you can install any version of any software. Yet, Fantastico will not see the installation because it was not installed using Fantastico. Everything will still work and all it will just be an manual install. So, you can go to Moodle's site and get the latest verion. Hope this helps.
Thanks for your reply. Moodle has two download file types (tar/gzip archive or zip archive). I imagine that the zip archive would not work since it would require WinZip or some other unzip utility to perform the function at the site. That means that the tar/gzip type would probably be the one I could upload and unzip using file manager' extraction utility on cPanel. Would you know if I have to change any of the permissions on the target directory or tar/gzip file before performing the extraction?

I have another technical question: At the moodle download site (http://moodle.org/doc/?frame=upgrade.html) it gives the following directions on how to do the upgrade. I was wondering how you execute these commands from file manager:

>Do not overwrite an old installation unless you know what you are doing ... sometimes old files can cause problems in new >installations. The best way it to rename the current Moodle directory to something else, then unpack the new Moodle archive into the >old location.

>mv moodle moodle.backup
>tar xvzf moodle-1.1.tgz

>Next, copy across your config.php and any other plugins such as custom themes:

>cp moodle.backup/config.php moodle


I know, I know. Too many questions. :frust:
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Old October 8th, 2003, 12:44 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Originally posted by monkeyboyOct 7 2003, 10.10 pm
actually if you get tgz file you can use winRAR to unzip that file. The command line they give you is for Linux people. Once you unzip the files just upload them to the FTP server run the upgrad script that it tells you to run. If you get ZIP file, you can using Wndows XP/ME built in zip program if you don't have them you can get winRAR to unzip them for you. Hope this helps.
Thanks again. I think I might be able to actually do this. I have unzipped the download file and used WS_FTP to move it up to my target diretory. The only thing I still don't get is how you issue a command such as:

cp moodle.backup/config.php moodle

from WS_FTP program or from cPanel. I am obviously a newbie at this so forgive my ignorance (and pestering). I really appreciate this help. :worship:
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Old October 13th, 2003, 12:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Still having problems? Or has this been resolved?
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Old October 13th, 2003, 3:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Still having problems? Or has this been resolved?
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Thanks for asking.

Yes. I'm afraid that I was not successful getting the latest version of moodle installed.

I am confused about which of these two methods I should use:

1) unzip the 'moodle-1.1.1.zip' file locally to a folder on my hard drive and then upload that folder contents to my remote moodle
directory using cPanel or ...
2) etract it at the remote directory using cPanel's 'Extract file contents' option.

If it is unzip the compressed file at the remote directory using cPanel then I am only having success with the 'moodle-1.1.1.gz' file type. cPanel complains with the message "File Type: Zip archive data, at least v1.0 to extract " when I try to extract the 'moodle-1.1.1.zip'.

Also. I am unclear how to use cPanel to do the following direct commands:

>mv moodle moodle.backup
>tar xvzf moodle-1.1.tgz
>Next, copy across your config.php and any other plugins such as custom themes:
>cp moodle.backup/config.php moodle

This follows the recommended upgrade process described at (http://moodle.org/doc/?frame=upgrade.html).
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Old October 13th, 2003, 3:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Cpanel doesn't like ZIP files, so use the .gz file.

Basically, the upgrade is like this:

In Cpanel, find the directory named moodle (or whatever you called it)

Click it, and then rename it to something, like moodle.backup

Now, uncompress the archive of moodle, and place into a directory called moodle. From the moodle.backup directory, copy the config.php to the new moodle directory. Plugins, I don't know about. If there is a plugins directory under moodle.backup, then I guess copy it into moodle. And you should be done...
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Originally posted by patrickbOct 13 2003, 1.26 pm
Cpanel doesn't like ZIP files, so use the .gz file.

Basically, the upgrade is like this:

In Cpanel, find the directory named moodle (or whatever you called it)

Click it, and then rename it to something, like moodle.backup

Now, uncompress the archive of moodle, and place into a directory called moodle.  From the moodle.backup directory, copy the config.php to the new moodle directory.  Plugins, I don't know about.  If there is a plugins directory under moodle.backup, then I guess copy it into moodle.  And you should be done...
I followed these suggested steps exactly.

1) I renamed the current moodle directory which is 'courses' to 'courses.backup'.
2) I then created a new directory and gave it the name 'courses'.
3) I uploaded the compressed moodle software file (moodle-1.1.1.gz) into 'courses'.
4) I verify that the directory has 770 (write and execute) permissions
5) Using the Extract function of file manager in cPanel, I extract the file
6) Another file is created with the same name but it doesn't have the *.gz extension.
7) I copy the 'config.php' from my 'courses.backup' directory
8) I go to what should be the 'admin' subdirectory of 'courses'. It turns out that there isn't an admin directory as there is in my 'courses.backup'

Nothing happens. I don't think that the software is intalling or extracting properly.
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Old October 15th, 2003, 7:43 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Ahh, I see. Cpanel doesn't seem to handle the secondary compression right. That new file is another archive in actuality. Ok, let's do this then. Download the zip version, and uncompress it on your HD. Change the name of the uncompressed folder to 'courses' and then upload the entire directory onto your website through FTP. Then copy over the old config file into the new one. Just make sure that your FTP program is set to do an ASCII transfer instead of Auto or Binary. And you should be all good to go hopefully.. Post back with your results..
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Yes, AUTO FTP uploading is unreliable.

Well, if you like spending hours troubleshooting, go ahead.
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