Chat programs are NOT allowed - Page 2

**DewKnight** · January 22nd, 2006, 5:51 PM

From what I know, the option to is install it is there... but it should not actually install. Either way, all programs, even phpMyChat, are not allowed. If you have one running, I suggest uninstalling it immediately, otherwise your account could be suspended.

Ardath Rekha · February 21st, 2006, 3:24 PM

Kayla, Ancyru, and DewKnight,

I recently discovered that the java applet that ablenet.org is hosting for my sites contains some (optional, but they insist upon it) material that I find objectionable (namely some rude and obscene epithets that visitors can auto-use, that are very much against the site rules). I was considering hosting the applet myself somewhere. It's javirc5.4, and I've spent the day looking over the code.

Is it okay for that program to be hosted on my webspace, since it's just a java applet that allows users to connect to an IRC chat hosted elsewhere? I absolutely won't install it if you say no, but after finding some of the ridiculous things that Ablenet's staff added to the current applet, without bothering to ask me, I'd like to have more control over it.

Let me know, please.

H · February 21st, 2006, 3:30 PM

I would wait for someone else to confirm this, but as far as I know, you can install a java applet that connects to a remote server.

EG: You install an applet on sh75.surpasshosting.com and it connects to irc.freenode.net

This is perfectly OK to do in my understanding; however, I would wait for an additional response.

Ardath Rekha · February 21st, 2006, 4:35 PM

Yeah, that's what I'm hoping will be the answer, but I definitely want to be sure before I actually do anything.

**Kayla** · February 21st, 2006, 7:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haugland

I would wait for someone else to confirm this, but as far as I know, you can install a java applet that connects to a remote server.

That's as correct as it can be.

As long as it doesn't start causing issues on the server, it would be fine. If we notice the load on the server going up and it's due to your site, I will let you know about it. It would probably be fine though.

**Bigjohn** · February 21st, 2006, 8:37 PM

The key here is = if you execute code on the server, that's bad. If you just serve a script that runs on a PC, that's okiedokie!

Ardath Rekha · February 21st, 2006, 10:04 PM

*nodding* Looking over the code itself, it's an html-page with plug-ins. The scripts load onto the computer as the html page calls on them, and when they finish loading, that's when you're able to connect to the specified IRC server elsewhere. We use the Ablenet network, but by having the applet located on our webspace, it means that if we switch networks we don't have to beg the new network for a new applet; we just change that bit of code in the html page and we're flying. So this is a huge help. Thank you.

BrennanU · March 24th, 2006, 5:57 PM

I assume live help programs fall into the chat catagory?

Brennan

**Kayla** · March 24th, 2006, 6:02 PM

No, those are fine.

January 22nd, 2006, 5:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
DewKnight Skittles Super #1 Joined in Aug 2004 Lives in a space ship Hosted on dedi 6,826 posts Gave thanks: 103 Thanked 199 times	From what I know, the option to is install it is there... but it should not actually install. Either way, all programs, even phpMyChat, are not allowed. If you have one running, I suggest uninstalling it immediately, otherwise your account could be suspended. __________________ Mountain Dew Knight People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.

February 21st, 2006, 3:24 PM	#11 (permalink)
Ardath Rekha Registered User Fresh Surpasser Joined in Dec 2004 13 posts Gave thanks: 0 Thanked 0 times	Re: Chat programs are NOT allowed Kayla, Ancyru, and DewKnight, I recently discovered that the java applet that ablenet.org is hosting for my sites contains some (optional, but they insist upon it) material that I find objectionable (namely some rude and obscene epithets that visitors can auto-use, that are very much against the site rules). I was considering hosting the applet myself somewhere. It's javirc5.4, and I've spent the day looking over the code. Is it okay for that program to be hosted on my webspace, since it's just a java applet that allows users to connect to an IRC chat hosted elsewhere? I absolutely won't install it if you say no, but after finding some of the ridiculous things that Ablenet's staff added to the current applet, without bothering to ask me, I'd like to have more control over it. Let me know, please. __________________ Ardath Rekha Server: Pass16 Last edited by Ardath Rekha; February 21st, 2006 at 3:27 PM..

February 21st, 2006, 3:30 PM	#12 (permalink)
H after g, before i Resident. Joined in Jul 2004 Lives in N,BC,CA 8,092 posts Gave thanks: 48 Thanked 131 times	Re: Chat programs are NOT allowed I would wait for someone else to confirm this, but as far as I know, you can install a java applet that connects to a remote server. EG: You install an applet on sh75.surpasshosting.com and it connects to irc.freenode.net This is perfectly OK to do in my understanding; however, I would wait for an additional response.

February 21st, 2006, 4:35 PM	#13 (permalink)
Ardath Rekha Registered User Fresh Surpasser Joined in Dec 2004 13 posts Gave thanks: 0 Thanked 0 times	Re: Chat programs are NOT allowed Yeah, that's what I'm hoping will be the answer, but I definitely want to be sure before I actually do anything. __________________ Ardath Rekha Server: Pass16

February 21st, 2006, 8:37 PM	#15 (permalink)
Bigjohn minor deity Super #1 Joined in Apr 2004 Lives in Georgia Hosted on XEON 7,395 posts Gave thanks: 28 Thanked 94 times	Re: Chat programs are NOT allowed The key here is = if you execute code on the server, that's bad. If you just serve a script that runs on a PC, that's okiedokie! __________________ Proud to be a Surmunity Mod! XEON PASS60 PASS61 Make a fundamental difference! My Sites: Curious about Brewing Beer? Join the community! >>>>> Some Change is GOOD! Keep your paycheck! Support the Fair Tax Get into an Art museum Victorian London It's your brain -*ON WEB* - mybrainhost.com (under development) What SHOULD Government do? Much Less than it Does!

February 21st, 2006, 10:04 PM	#16 (permalink)
Ardath Rekha Registered User Fresh Surpasser Joined in Dec 2004 13 posts Gave thanks: 0 Thanked 0 times	Re: Chat programs are NOT allowed nodding Looking over the code itself, it's an html-page with plug-ins. The scripts load onto the computer as the html page calls on them, and when they finish loading, that's when you're able to connect to the specified IRC server elsewhere. We use the Ablenet network, but by having the applet located on our webspace, it means that if we switch networks we don't have to beg the new network for a new applet; we just change that bit of code in the html page and we're flying. So this is a huge help. Thank you. __________________ Ardath Rekha Server: Pass16

March 24th, 2006, 5:57 PM	#17 (permalink)
BrennanU Registered User Comfy Contributor Joined in Feb 2006 Lives in Ohio Hosted on SH93 119 posts Gave thanks: 4 Thanked 0 times	I assume live help programs fall into the chat catagory? Brennan __________________ http://www.brennanu.com is on SH93

March 24th, 2006, 6:02 PM	#18 (permalink)
Kayla Marketing Maven Surpass Staff Joined in May 2003 Lives in Chicago 24,757 posts Gave thanks: 946 Thanked 807 times	No, those are fine. __________________ Follow Surpass on Twitter and Facebook And there's my own Twitter and LinkedIn

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