Tables vs CSS - Page 5

**Bigjohn** · August 18th, 2004, 8:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mobius

Well, a student has to learn some where doesnt he master Bigjohn?

Indeed Grasshopper :smilehehe

Continue your studies and you will be fine :sumo: one day.

**Rai** · August 18th, 2004, 9:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Haugland

Why pay? Because I've used Opera for two years and I wasn't comfortable using Firefox. There's nothing wrong with paying for software, especially if you enjoy it. I don't always like taking the cheap route and using free software, though sometimes it's a better software. Nothing against Firefox, but it's way over-hyped and other than web standard compliance overs very little over IE. Most damage to your computer through your browser comes from careless browsing -- which is the users fault.

By the way.. Don't bother trying to fill me in on all the advantages of Firefox over *browser title here* cause I've already decided which browser suits my habits best. Worst people on the web are braggers of Gmail accounts and Firefox preachers.

Considering the fact I mainly use IE because that's what *I'm* comfortable with, I'm not trying to preach Firefox. I'm saying that what appears to be best to code too, if you're looking to make a website that's universally compliant. It doesn't hurt anyone to open a different browser and check a website when you're making one.

You may have a valid reason for continuing to pay for Opera, but I don't see a purpose in starting to pay. The whole comfort thing is developed by using a browser for an extend period of time.. so if you start by using IE or Firefox or Netscape or whatever, you'll become more comfortable with that and don't need to pay. As IE provides me with all I need in a browser.. I'm happy. I like simplicity

And hey, I started a smear campaign against gmail in an online community I'm in, because it was getting pathetic people begging for the account, so I hear you on that part. Of course, I have a gmail for myself now, but only cause my best friend offered it to me... and I generally just mail myself stuff when I'm away from home to it (pictures, link, that kind of stuff) (Okay, I'll rephrase.. it wasn't exactly a smear campaign, just the fact that the people were being pathetic and making it into the new "livejournal," since we had issues in that community when LJ was on invite only. I have no problem with the concept of gmail, it does it's job.)

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Originally Posted by blueskies

I believe thats a video isn't it?

There is a video at http://www.deadtroll.com, but I prefer the audio file much more... It has more jokes, I find, and the video is annoying in the "free" version anyways.

**gonzo** · August 18th, 2004, 10:21 AM

I was not preaching any browser!!!! I only stated that when coding Firefox is the only browser I worry about! If all other browsers have an inferiority complex that is not my problem. Let Them go to Dr. Phil for counseling.

**sam** · August 18th, 2004, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by gonzo

I was not preaching any browser!!!! I only stated that when coding Firefox is the only browser I worry about! If all other browsers have an inferiority complex that is not my problem. Let Them gp to Dr. Phil for counseling.

I have one rule for a web browser - must not be manufactured by a vendor in Redmond.

theward · September 17th, 2004, 1:34 AM

*bump

I know this thread is dry and crusty, but here's an additional goodie to clear things up. Everyone should have a read!

http://maccaws.org/kit/primer/

That's why CSS wins in a prettly little nutshell. And yes, most people who will teach you web pages still teach outdated table methods. There is not one university in the united states that offers a degree or certification in web standards and accessibility programming, even though it is required by government law in 3 countries, and suggested by Goverment Section 508.

Anyone want to open a university with me? Hehehe...

September 17th, 2004, 1:34 AM	#41 (permalink)
theward Registered User Seasoned Poster Joined in Nov 2003 Lives in Harrisonburg, VA Hosted on Viva 90 posts Gave thanks: 0 Thanked 0 times	*bump I know this thread is dry and crusty, but here's an additional goodie to clear things up. Everyone should have a read! http://maccaws.org/kit/primer/ That's why CSS wins in a prettly little nutshell. And yes, most people who will teach you web pages still teach outdated table methods. There is not one university in the united states that offers a degree or certification in web standards and accessibility programming, even though it is required by government law in 3 countries, and suggested by Goverment Section 508. Anyone want to open a university with me? Hehehe... __________________ Ryan Christie ryan.christie-[at]-gmail.com Get yourself some Firefox foo! :p

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August 18th, 2004, 10:21 AM	#39 (permalink)
gonzo ma Comfy Contributor Joined in Aug 2004 Lives in da beach 254 posts Gave thanks: 0 Thanked 0 times	I was not preaching any browser!!!! I only stated that when coding Firefox is the only browser I worry about! If all other browsers have an inferiority complex that is not my problem. Let Them go to Dr. Phil for counseling.

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