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**bcinelli** · September 21st, 2004, 2:09 PM

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Originally Posted by theward

I currently work as an independant developer on the side of being a developer working interdepartmentally at James Madison University, and am for hire. Let your teacher know that as well

I don't do speeches or lectures, yet. Heh. I'd so bomb in front of a crowd :p

Jolie in an eyepatch and commander uniform was surprisingly hot in SCatWoT. She didn't appear until near the end though, and even then her screen-time was limited. I think I was dissapointed by that movie because I went for my AJ fix and her having a minor role and sparse screening only worsened it.

Bah, too off-topic. Not the place for a discuss of AJ or her new flick :-P

There is a guy at JMU .. who is a senior this year .. who has a very popular site .. Patrick Smith .. or somthing .. he owns http://smithappens.com .. he works for JMU for there website stuff too ..

AJ .. lets not get started .. (or start another thread) .. lol

theward · September 21st, 2004, 2:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bcinelli

Also, quick question .. are tables a bad idea in XHTML trans?

Tables for layout or tables for tabular data?

Layout: bad

Tabular Data: good

Zeldman would say hybrid layouts (ones that use CSS heavily but rely on tables for layout) are alright if you need to use it, but I'm just against it in general.

Being that you're new however, a hybrid might suit you well until you get more experience for a CSS layout to put live, because something has to run DD in the meantime while you're toying around. Breaking sites with dev work just pisses people off (bad expierence with that here :-/).

Keep in mind though regardless, you're only bound by syntax rules in Transitional. If a person is using Strict to markup pages, logically, they should also be using CSS to position everything because alignment declarations and such are out the window. Transitional can really just go either way because you still have the option of using the old HTML presentation controls inside your tags.

theward · September 21st, 2004, 2:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bcinelli

There is a guy at JMU .. who is a senior this year .. who has a very popular site .. Patrick Smith .. or somthing .. he owns http://smithappens.com .. he works for JMU for there website stuff too ..

AJ .. lets not get started .. (or start another thread) .. lol

Yeah I know Smitty

Fun guy. He used to do web content updates for the university's newpaper site ~ thebreeze.org ... this year he took over as resident webmaster and (i think) gave the site a new layout. I'm a really not-big fan of the new layout, but Smit is still cool even though he tushie-violated the smooth old one.

He's all the way at the bottom of http://www.thebreeze.org/editors/index.shtml

Also friends with gorillamask.net, i did the layout for chokeychicken.com, and random others in the blogosphere. I used to be up there with the greats until I set about being a professional

Now I'm just a nerd! LOL

**bcinelli** · September 23rd, 2004, 2:32 AM

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Originally Posted by theward

Yeah I know Smitty

Fun guy. He used to do web content updates for the university's newpaper site ~ thebreeze.org ... this year he took over as resident webmaster and (i think) gave the site a new layout. I'm a really not-big fan of the new layout, but Smit is still cool even though he tushie-violated the smooth old one.

He's all the way at the bottom of http://www.thebreeze.org/editors/index.shtml

Also friends with gorillamask.net, i did the layout for chokeychicken.com, and random others in the blogosphere. I used to be up there with the greats until I set about being a professional

Now I'm just a nerd! LOL

Your friends with Ryan Perry too .. that is sweet ..

Aww come on the blogosphere is soo much fun .. i hope to only get as popular as those guys .. its just fun to screw around.

Anyways ... i was talking to my friend who just graduated from Seton Hall Univ. and she was in webdeveloping or webmastering .. i forget .. and she said her teacher just always made her use tables .. never css .. but i tryed fighting w/ her bout that .. lol .. she still loves me thouhg .. but anyways .. i only have 38 errors under transitional .. and it all has to do with my PHP withing my index page .. are you allowed to have php on XHTML strict?

theward · September 23rd, 2004, 9:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bcinelli

are you allowed to have php on XHTML strict?

PHP doesn't affect HTML documents in a direct way since the PHP is executed on load. Inspection of a PHP page yeilds just HTML. As long as the HTML that the PHP is producing and placing into the document is valid, the page is valid.

**Bigjohn** · September 23rd, 2004, 10:10 AM

Right.

If you use PHP to output HTML, just make sure that what you output complies with the standard you're writing to.

**bcinelli** · September 23rd, 2004, 10:33 AM

Yep, but the validator is just picking up a majority of page errors if not all the errors from the PHP section of my index.html page. This section my 'shoutbox' is very important to my site and i must keep it but how do I get it to validate? .. if you could .. check out the validation

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...m%2Findex.html

**Bigjohn** · September 23rd, 2004, 11:44 AM

well, you only get 12 errors when you validate it as HTML 4.01 transitional, and most of those are due to the /> xhtml markups...

**Kayla** · September 23rd, 2004, 11:57 AM

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