Go Green / Company Culture

colum · March 15th, 2008, 12:49 PM

This has been brought up before, but Could their be like an addon thats like $5 a month, that goes into a carbon offset, of like the server your on?

and:
Is Surpass Hosting Green?

JoeHoochumblow · March 15th, 2008, 1:39 PM

Sooo, what you want to do is pay more for hosting to save the environment...

I've never understood this carbon offsetting thing.
Why pay money to do something more environmentally friendly somewhere else? Why not fix your own problem instead of transferring the guilt somewhere else while keeping your dastardly ways as they are?

This is the problem with a large portion of this "go green" mentality.

Paying a carbon offset fee doesn't change the fact that you could be doing things better yourself.

Call me a purist if you will, but I couldn't do that and feel like I've done my part when my hosting, polluting business, what have you, is still part of the problem.

**removed** · March 15th, 2008, 2:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeHoochumblow

Paying a carbon offset fee doesn't change the fact that you could be doing things better yourself.

I could not agree more. Stick with us for cheap hosting, and use the money you saved to "Go Green" on your own... That's just my personal opinion.

colum · March 15th, 2008, 5:48 PM

I already do...

**Sentinel** · March 15th, 2008, 6:47 PM

Carbon offset credits. Damn, why didn't I think of that first. There's some easy money. I could have started a carbon offset credit company. Send your guilt dollars to me and I'll make sure they get a good home. Oh well. I guess I'll just have to keep selling pet rocks and dog psychology.

j/k
As long as it is voluntary and not mandatory I don't care. I don't care if there is a check box on the pay form to add $5 to feed the hungry black speckled hamster of eastern Mongolia as long as it says "check here if you would like to add $5 to your bill to be donated to...".

But then of course I would have to have my equal opportunity to have my own check box that allows people to send $5 to help the NRA.

Hmm. Maybe this is not a good idea to start adding checkboxes for everyone that has a cause. Maybe a business should just be in the business of doing business and providing a service to their customers that their customers want and doing that well. Thus saving their customers money that they themselves can then donate to whatever cause they feel is just. Yeah, I think I remember reading that somewhere in business class.

Just joking. I couldn't help myself

**Kayla** · March 16th, 2008, 9:39 PM

For us since we have our own data center, going green can go much farther than the "carbon offsets" trend. Yes... I said trend. Unfortunately. I am not sure if their hearts are into all of this.

At any rate... the original blog post does not exist anymore, but my thoughts of it are in this article: Surpass Weighs Solar for New Data Center - Data Center Knowledge

We certainly have a lot to think about. We begin construction of the new data center later this year and will have energy efficiency on the top of our list.

**cass_is_awesome** · March 16th, 2008, 11:12 PM

This whole "Go Green" thing is getting far too out of control.

Condescending celebrities pushing the "Green Living" concept? Sure, I can deal with that.

"Go Green" products made by children in sweatshops in Southeast Asia being sold at Wal-Mart for 15 dollars a tote bag? Whatever, I'm down.

But come on.

This is web hosting. If there isn't Paris Hilton sweatshop exploitation to water down my environmental consciousness, I want nothing to do with it.

**Bigjohn** · March 17th, 2008, 7:14 AM

There is only ONE proven cause of global warming... and we welcome it into our lives every day... the SUN.

Man Made Global warming has not and cannot be proven with the bad erroneous data sets that they've put forward... "gee, I don't like how this data turned out, but if I omit THIS, then it turns out the way I want..."

The ICE CAPS on MARS are melting... did AlGore's SUV cause that too??
See what some independent thinkers think... about global warming... people who DON'T particularly care to get their scientific information from Moby, or the inventor of the internet himself, AlGor.

Global Warming, by Vin Suprynowicz

Global-warming alarmists intimidate dissenting scientists into silence, by Richard Lindzen

Oh, and in case the "libertarians" are TOO free thinking for you, and you want it from a more 'accepted' source...
Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says

**Sentinel** · March 17th, 2008, 8:07 AM

I don't care about global warming. But I do like clean air and clean water. I also don't like having to depend on countries that hate us for the fuel (life blood) of our economy.

But if Surpass does something "green" it has to make financial sense; not emotional sense. If Surpass does something trendy that just raises our prices then I am going to an oil burning cheaper company. But if Surpass can do something like solar and the cost stays the same or even goes down because solar is free and plentiful in Florida

then I could go with that. But it has to make economic sense.

March 15th, 2008, 12:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
colum Proud 2 b a Newyorker Seasoned Poster Joined in Jan 2008 Lives in Larchmont, NY Hosted on pass77 51 posts Gave thanks: 2 Thanked 0 times	Go Green / Company Culture This has been brought up before, but Could their be like an addon thats like $5 a month, that goes into a carbon offset, of like the server your on? and: Is Surpass Hosting Green? __________________ Wants to Work at surpass when he grown up...

March 15th, 2008, 1:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
JoeHoochumblow Registered User Fresh Surpasser Joined in Mar 2008 1 posts Gave thanks: 0 Thanked 0 times	hmmm Sooo, what you want to do is pay more for hosting to save the environment... I've never understood this carbon offsetting thing. Why pay money to do something more environmentally friendly somewhere else? Why not fix your own problem instead of transferring the guilt somewhere else while keeping your dastardly ways as they are? This is the problem with a large portion of this "go green" mentality. Paying a carbon offset fee doesn't change the fact that you could be doing things better yourself. Call me a purist if you will, but I couldn't do that and feel like I've done my part when my hosting, polluting business, what have you, is still part of the problem.

March 15th, 2008, 5:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
colum Proud 2 b a Newyorker Seasoned Poster Joined in Jan 2008 Lives in Larchmont, NY Hosted on pass77 51 posts Gave thanks: 2 Thanked 0 times	I already do... __________________ Wants to Work at surpass when he grown up...

March 15th, 2008, 6:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
Sentinel Surpass Fan On a golden path... Joined in Mar 2006 Hosted on SH100 446 posts Gave thanks: 70 Thanked 17 times	Carbon offset credits. Damn, why didn't I think of that first. There's some easy money. I could have started a carbon offset credit company. Send your guilt dollars to me and I'll make sure they get a good home. Oh well. I guess I'll just have to keep selling pet rocks and dog psychology. j/k As long as it is voluntary and not mandatory I don't care. I don't care if there is a check box on the pay form to add $5 to feed the hungry black speckled hamster of eastern Mongolia as long as it says "check here if you would like to add $5 to your bill to be donated to...". But then of course I would have to have my equal opportunity to have my own check box that allows people to send $5 to help the NRA. Hmm. Maybe this is not a good idea to start adding checkboxes for everyone that has a cause. Maybe a business should just be in the business of doing business and providing a service to their customers that their customers want and doing that well. Thus saving their customers money that they themselves can then donate to whatever cause they feel is just. Yeah, I think I remember reading that somewhere in business class. Just joking. I couldn't help myself __________________ SH100 , SH131 & SH124

March 16th, 2008, 9:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
Kayla Searcher Surpass Staff Joined in May 2003 Lives in Orlando 24,448 posts Gave thanks: 935 Thanked 783 times	For us since we have our own data center, going green can go much farther than the "carbon offsets" trend. Yes... I said trend. Unfortunately. I am not sure if their hearts are into all of this. At any rate... the original blog post does not exist anymore, but my thoughts of it are in this article: Surpass Weighs Solar for New Data Center - Data Center Knowledge We certainly have a lot to think about. We begin construction of the new data center later this year and will have energy efficiency on the top of our list. __________________ Follow Surpass on Twitter and Facebook Check out interesting finds on the Surpass Blog .... it's coming.

March 16th, 2008, 11:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
cass_is_awesome I killed the bus driver. On a golden path... Joined in Mar 2008 Lives in Michigan Hosted on SH138 326 posts Gave thanks: 6 Thanked 8 times	This whole "Go Green" thing is getting far too out of control. Condescending celebrities pushing the "Green Living" concept? Sure, I can deal with that. "Go Green" products made by children in sweatshops in Southeast Asia being sold at Wal-Mart for 15 dollars a tote bag? Whatever, I'm down. But come on. This is web hosting. If there isn't Paris Hilton sweatshop exploitation to water down my environmental consciousness, I want nothing to do with it. __________________ I tend to turn every thread I post in into the Post A Random Photo Thread

March 17th, 2008, 7:14 AM	#8 (permalink)
Bigjohn minor deity Super #1 Joined in Apr 2004 Lives in Georgia Hosted on XEON 7,331 posts Gave thanks: 23 Thanked 93 times	There is only ONE proven cause of global warming... and we welcome it into our lives every day... the SUN. Man Made Global warming has not and cannot be proven with the bad erroneous data sets that they've put forward... "gee, I don't like how this data turned out, but if I omit THIS, then it turns out the way I want..." The ICE CAPS on MARS are melting... did AlGore's SUV cause that too?? See what some independent thinkers think... about global warming... people who DON'T particularly care to get their scientific information from Moby, or the inventor of the internet himself, AlGor. Global Warming, by Vin Suprynowicz Global-warming alarmists intimidate dissenting scientists into silence, by Richard Lindzen Oh, and in case the "libertarians" are TOO free thinking for you, and you want it from a more 'accepted' source... Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says __________________ Proud to be a Surmunity Mod! XEON PASS60 PASS61 Make a fundamental difference! My Sites: Curious about Brewing Beer? Join the community! >>>>> Some Change is GOOD! Keep your paycheck! Support the Fair Tax Get into an Art museum Victorian London It's your brain -*ON WEB* - mybrainhost.com (under development) What SHOULD Government do? Much Less than it Does!

March 17th, 2008, 8:07 AM	#9 (permalink)
Sentinel Surpass Fan On a golden path... Joined in Mar 2006 Hosted on SH100 446 posts Gave thanks: 70 Thanked 17 times	I don't care about global warming. But I do like clean air and clean water. I also don't like having to depend on countries that hate us for the fuel (life blood) of our economy. But if Surpass does something "green" it has to make financial sense; not emotional sense. If Surpass does something trendy that just raises our prices then I am going to an oil burning cheaper company. But if Surpass can do something like solar and the cost stays the same or even goes down because solar is free and plentiful in Florida then I could go with that. But it has to make economic sense. __________________ SH100 , SH131 & SH124

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