Considering getting a dedicated...

**nokiaxv2** · July 9th, 2004, 8:14 AM

Hey folks,

I'm thinking about getting a dedicated server. I currently have two reseller accounts for hosting and, as great as the plans are, I'm a little concerned about the space and my pricing scheme. My plans are fairly low, I look to make profit off quantity instead of quality, so to say.

I'm thinking about grabbing the first dedicated plan, and maybe hosting a few dedicated game servers as well as my web host accounts to help cover, if not pay for the cost of the dedicated.

I'm interestd in Counter Strike, Battlefield and possibly Battlefield: Vietnam, and Quake 3 Arena dedicateds. I checked some server hosting requirments and from what I could find, most are substantial off 256mb of ram and less than a gig of processor power.

About how many dedicated servers you think I could host on the standard Intel Celeron 1.7Ghz 400Mhz Bus server? Keep in mind that I will try and host sites from it as well if possible. Those two terabytes and 80gigs are quite tempting...

Thanks in advanced

**Bigjohn** · July 9th, 2004, 9:20 AM

Unleashed can probably help more than me, but I'll tell you that you would not want to host more than a couple of game servers on there if you plan to host a dozen domains. You get more flexibility with the P4 server. Either way, you're going to want RAM. Lots of it. The system will slow noticeably if it has to keep swapping to disk.

John

**Travis** · July 9th, 2004, 3:04 PM

I would get 2 gigs memory for both games and sites and posibly the P4

I personaly think that a gameserver and a webserver should never go together but thats my opinion

**nokiaxv2** · July 9th, 2004, 4:32 PM

I understand how you feela bout the gaming servers and web server being on the same machine. Could any surpass techies tell me what I could expect my server loads to be like if I did go with the P4 server and maybe a gig of ram? With web hosting and then with gaming servers if possible?

Maybe you could check a server that hosts games and show me the seperate server loads for it and its specs? I'm just investigating this at the moment, but if I can get my hosting deals to pick up and maybe a few peope interested in gaming servers, I'll jump on it.

**Travis** · July 10th, 2004, 2:11 AM

Most gamming servers run around 80% of the CPU you can run two gaming servers and keep the server load around 90% if your running a BF1942 or Vietnam try to keep the max players below 32

If you get a busy game the other game and the webserver will be really slow
If you get a busy site (chances are really, really good you will) the whole server will be slow to respond

**nokiaxv2** · July 10th, 2004, 6:13 AM

Well I'm probably going to end up getting a dedicated anyway and I guess move all my accounts over there. I just got a request for more space. With the current clients that I have now, plus this potential, none of the reseller packages will do. So I'm waiting to hear from him again and a response from upgrades to see how to handle this. As far as the gaming server. I will more than likely scrap that idea until I can generate more traffic. Thanks for your help Unleashed.

**Travis** · July 10th, 2004, 6:54 AM

No problem

I was going to run gaime servers on my server but the speeds where just a tad to slow

**nokiaxv2** · July 21st, 2004, 5:06 AM

Well, after careful consideration, I've decided to go ahead and get a Dedicated with Surpass. I placed my order yesterday, hopefully I'll soon be up cause I'm down to my last few megs of storage space on my reseller accounts. I've disabled account sign ups until the switch is complete.

Think I'm gonna go ahead and email upgrades to add WHM Autopilot monthly for a few months until I can get some really good steady profit coming in. Sucks being a college student :-P

**nokiaxv2** · July 22nd, 2004, 2:13 PM

Well, I thought I was gonna switch to a dedicated? I placed the order on the 20th at 12:20pm but I haven't heard anything from anyone yet. I have two reseller accounts and one is completely full and the other can only how about 2 more accounts. I figured I'd be down for about 24 hours so I made the necessary changes to my site to disable orders until the change is completed. I think i changed my site to tell about the site changes around 2pm on the same day I ordered. I noticed on my order that I had entered my phone number wrong. But then I would have gotten an email if thats what was holding things up.

Is there any clue what the deal is? I'm waiting on the dedicated and my Autopilot license. Eman, if you can hear me buddy...I need you...rescue me from this...pit...of...

I'm sorry, lack of sleep and no caffine makes you say weird things. HelP?!

BTW, yea, I emailed upgrades a few times and replied to serversales...

July 9th, 2004, 8:14 AM	#1 (permalink)
nokiaxv2 Surpass Fan Seasoned Poster Joined in Jun 2004 Lives in Natchitoches, LA Hosted on pass7 78 posts Gave thanks: 0 Thanked 0 times	Considering getting a dedicated... Hey folks, I'm thinking about getting a dedicated server. I currently have two reseller accounts for hosting and, as great as the plans are, I'm a little concerned about the space and my pricing scheme. My plans are fairly low, I look to make profit off quantity instead of quality, so to say. I'm thinking about grabbing the first dedicated plan, and maybe hosting a few dedicated game servers as well as my web host accounts to help cover, if not pay for the cost of the dedicated. I'm interestd in Counter Strike, Battlefield and possibly Battlefield: Vietnam, and Quake 3 Arena dedicateds. I checked some server hosting requirments and from what I could find, most are substantial off 256mb of ram and less than a gig of processor power. About how many dedicated servers you think I could host on the standard Intel Celeron 1.7Ghz 400Mhz Bus server? Keep in mind that I will try and host sites from it as well if possible. Those two terabytes and 80gigs are quite tempting... Thanks in advanced __________________ -( NokiaX )- http://www.eclipse-business.com Saprus Dedicated This made me "LoL" "Unleashedgamers (5:39:21 AM): where you a script kiddie?"

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Bigjohn minor deity Super #1 Joined in Apr 2004 Lives in Georgia Hosted on XEON 7,338 posts Gave thanks: 23 Thanked 93 times	Unleashed can probably help more than me, but I'll tell you that you would not want to host more than a couple of game servers on there if you plan to host a dozen domains. You get more flexibility with the P4 server. Either way, you're going to want RAM. Lots of it. The system will slow noticeably if it has to keep swapping to disk. John __________________ Proud to be a Surmunity Mod! XEON PASS60 PASS61 Make a fundamental difference! My Sites: Curious about Brewing Beer? Join the community! >>>>> Some Change is GOOD! Keep your paycheck! Support the Fair Tax Get into an Art museum Victorian London It's your brain -*ON WEB* - mybrainhost.com (under development) What SHOULD Government do? Much Less than it Does!

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Travis ubuntu Fan Super #1 Joined in Nov 2003 Lives in Calgary Alberta Canada 2,724 posts Gave thanks: 0 Thanked 0 times	I would get 2 gigs memory for both games and sites and posibly the P4 I personaly think that a gameserver and a webserver should never go together but thats my opinion __________________ "A lot of people are waiting for Martin Luther King or Mahatma Gandhi to come back -- but they are gone. We are it. It is up to us. It is up to you." — Marian Wright Edelman

July 9th, 2004, 4:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
nokiaxv2 Surpass Fan Seasoned Poster Joined in Jun 2004 Lives in Natchitoches, LA Hosted on pass7 78 posts Gave thanks: 0 Thanked 0 times	Makes sense I understand how you feela bout the gaming servers and web server being on the same machine. Could any surpass techies tell me what I could expect my server loads to be like if I did go with the P4 server and maybe a gig of ram? With web hosting and then with gaming servers if possible? Maybe you could check a server that hosts games and show me the seperate server loads for it and its specs? I'm just investigating this at the moment, but if I can get my hosting deals to pick up and maybe a few peope interested in gaming servers, I'll jump on it. __________________ -( NokiaX )- http://www.eclipse-business.com Saprus Dedicated This made me "LoL" "Unleashedgamers (5:39:21 AM): where you a script kiddie?"

July 10th, 2004, 2:11 AM	#5 (permalink)
Travis ubuntu Fan Super #1 Joined in Nov 2003 Lives in Calgary Alberta Canada 2,724 posts Gave thanks: 0 Thanked 0 times	Most gamming servers run around 80% of the CPU you can run two gaming servers and keep the server load around 90% if your running a BF1942 or Vietnam try to keep the max players below 32 If you get a busy game the other game and the webserver will be really slow If you get a busy site (chances are really, really good you will) the whole server will be slow to respond __________________ "A lot of people are waiting for Martin Luther King or Mahatma Gandhi to come back -- but they are gone. We are it. It is up to us. It is up to you." — Marian Wright Edelman

July 10th, 2004, 6:13 AM	#6 (permalink)
nokiaxv2 Surpass Fan Seasoned Poster Joined in Jun 2004 Lives in Natchitoches, LA Hosted on pass7 78 posts Gave thanks: 0 Thanked 0 times	Well I'm probably going to end up getting a dedicated anyway and I guess move all my accounts over there. I just got a request for more space. With the current clients that I have now, plus this potential, none of the reseller packages will do. So I'm waiting to hear from him again and a response from upgrades to see how to handle this. As far as the gaming server. I will more than likely scrap that idea until I can generate more traffic. Thanks for your help Unleashed. __________________ -( NokiaX )- http://www.eclipse-business.com Saprus Dedicated This made me "LoL" "Unleashedgamers (5:39:21 AM): where you a script kiddie?"

July 10th, 2004, 6:54 AM	#7 (permalink)
Travis ubuntu Fan Super #1 Joined in Nov 2003 Lives in Calgary Alberta Canada 2,724 posts Gave thanks: 0 Thanked 0 times	No problem I was going to run gaime servers on my server but the speeds where just a tad to slow __________________ "A lot of people are waiting for Martin Luther King or Mahatma Gandhi to come back -- but they are gone. We are it. It is up to us. It is up to you." — Marian Wright Edelman

July 21st, 2004, 5:06 AM	#8 (permalink)
nokiaxv2 Surpass Fan Seasoned Poster Joined in Jun 2004 Lives in Natchitoches, LA Hosted on pass7 78 posts Gave thanks: 0 Thanked 0 times	Well, after careful consideration, I've decided to go ahead and get a Dedicated with Surpass. I placed my order yesterday, hopefully I'll soon be up cause I'm down to my last few megs of storage space on my reseller accounts. I've disabled account sign ups until the switch is complete. Think I'm gonna go ahead and email upgrades to add WHM Autopilot monthly for a few months until I can get some really good steady profit coming in. Sucks being a college student :-P __________________ -( NokiaX )- http://www.eclipse-business.com Saprus Dedicated This made me "LoL" "Unleashedgamers (5:39:21 AM): where you a script kiddie?"

July 22nd, 2004, 2:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
nokiaxv2 Surpass Fan Seasoned Poster Joined in Jun 2004 Lives in Natchitoches, LA Hosted on pass7 78 posts Gave thanks: 0 Thanked 0 times	Well, I thought I was gonna switch to a dedicated? I placed the order on the 20th at 12:20pm but I haven't heard anything from anyone yet. I have two reseller accounts and one is completely full and the other can only how about 2 more accounts. I figured I'd be down for about 24 hours so I made the necessary changes to my site to disable orders until the change is completed. I think i changed my site to tell about the site changes around 2pm on the same day I ordered. I noticed on my order that I had entered my phone number wrong. But then I would have gotten an email if thats what was holding things up. Is there any clue what the deal is? I'm waiting on the dedicated and my Autopilot license. Eman, if you can hear me buddy...I need you...rescue me from this...pit...of... I'm sorry, lack of sleep and no caffine makes you say weird things. HelP?! BTW, yea, I emailed upgrades a few times and replied to serversales... __________________ -( NokiaX )- http://www.eclipse-business.com Saprus Dedicated This made me "LoL" "Unleashedgamers (5:39:21 AM): where you a script kiddie?"

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