Chat rooms?

animeorb · February 24th, 2007, 10:32 PM

When reading the TOS I found this:
Surpass Hosting does not provide nor allow chat rooms on shared hosting environments. You may elect for a dedicated server to run a chat room efficiently.

Does this include PHP chatrooms as well, it would seem so because there is a clause about IRC servers directly below it.

**twirp** · February 24th, 2007, 11:14 PM

You aren't allowed any chatrooms. PHP, Perl, Ruby, etc. Unless you get a dedicated or VPS.

animeorb · February 24th, 2007, 11:32 PM

It should be ok to host it on another server,right?

**twirp** · February 24th, 2007, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by animeorb

It should be ok to host it on another server,right?

I guess so. As long as the other server allows it.

**Geoff** · February 24th, 2007, 11:49 PM

right, you are not allowed to host a chatroom on surpasses servers, not that you are not allowed to have a chatroom as part of your service/site, such as on a free irc host (most networks will allow you to create a room, some may prefer that the room be focused on a similar subject/topic as the network (eg, you wouldnt host #malibubarbie on a linux focused network? lol))

Im not sure how they feel about portals that allow access to chat servers, such as cgi irc clients that are commonly available, although i suspect they frown upon it

H · February 25th, 2007, 12:31 AM

JavaIRC is perfectly fine so long as it's connecting to an external IRC server. I'm not sure about CGI though... I'm not sure if it's like Java and doesn't poll your server.

**Geoff** · February 25th, 2007, 6:54 AM

ya the java client is ultimately a client side application, so you/your browser is doing all the work. With CGI there is overhead on the server. it may depend on how its coded, but ive noticed some significant issues with scripts like nph-proxy, however i do have a few people using CGI irc scripts that dont seem to cause any major issues, but they arent used that much. the client base for those sites tend to have their own irc clients anyways lol

So ya, there will be some server resources dedicated to every user, although honestly not positive if its a one time it, or a constant hit, but i suspect it to be the latter.

animeorb · February 25th, 2007, 4:18 PM

Ok im gunna just host PHPFreeChat on one of my other servers and just link to it.

February 24th, 2007, 10:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
animeorb Registered User Fresh Surpasser Joined in Feb 2007 3 posts Gave thanks: 0 Thanked 0 times	Chat rooms? When reading the TOS I found this: Surpass Hosting does not provide nor allow chat rooms on shared hosting environments. You may elect for a dedicated server to run a chat room efficiently. Does this include PHP chatrooms as well, it would seem so because there is a clause about IRC servers directly below it.

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twirp DemonicAngel Super #1 Joined in Aug 2004 Lives in Wherever The World Takes Me Hosted on Pass76 1,847 posts Gave thanks: 28 Thanked 35 times	You aren't allowed any chatrooms. PHP, Perl, Ruby, etc. Unless you get a dedicated or VPS. __________________ You wear Vans so high school kids will think that you can skate. He wears Vans because he can skate. TwiRp wears Vans because they were on sale. Pass76 wants Vans.

February 24th, 2007, 11:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
Geoff Yabadabadoo Super #1 Joined in Nov 2004 Lives in B.C., Canada Hosted on Dedicated 1,013 posts Gave thanks: 7 Thanked 28 times	right, you are not allowed to host a chatroom on surpasses servers, not that you are not allowed to have a chatroom as part of your service/site, such as on a free irc host (most networks will allow you to create a room, some may prefer that the room be focused on a similar subject/topic as the network (eg, you wouldnt host #malibubarbie on a linux focused network? lol)) Im not sure how they feel about portals that allow access to chat servers, such as cgi irc clients that are commonly available, although i suspect they frown upon it __________________ Geoff Ellis - Surpass Dedicated Server Customer www.adepttechs.net

February 25th, 2007, 6:54 AM	#7 (permalink)
Geoff Yabadabadoo Super #1 Joined in Nov 2004 Lives in B.C., Canada Hosted on Dedicated 1,013 posts Gave thanks: 7 Thanked 28 times	ya the java client is ultimately a client side application, so you/your browser is doing all the work. With CGI there is overhead on the server. it may depend on how its coded, but ive noticed some significant issues with scripts like nph-proxy, however i do have a few people using CGI irc scripts that dont seem to cause any major issues, but they arent used that much. the client base for those sites tend to have their own irc clients anyways lol So ya, there will be some server resources dedicated to every user, although honestly not positive if its a one time it, or a constant hit, but i suspect it to be the latter. __________________ Geoff Ellis - Surpass Dedicated Server Customer www.adepttechs.net

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February 24th, 2007, 11:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
animeorb Registered User Fresh Surpasser Joined in Feb 2007 3 posts Gave thanks: 0 Thanked 0 times	It should be ok to host it on another server,right?

February 25th, 2007, 12:31 AM	#6 (permalink)
H after g, before i Resident. Joined in Jul 2004 Lives in N,BC,CA 8,086 posts Gave thanks: 48 Thanked 131 times	JavaIRC is perfectly fine so long as it's connecting to an external IRC server. I'm not sure about CGI though... I'm not sure if it's like Java and doesn't poll your server.

February 25th, 2007, 4:18 PM	#8 (permalink)
animeorb Registered User Fresh Surpasser Joined in Feb 2007 3 posts Gave thanks: 0 Thanked 0 times	Ok im gunna just host PHPFreeChat on one of my other servers and just link to it.

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