[Answered] Shared hosting. vBulletin running in 2 servers for reliability?

CrEsT · January 29th, 2008, 9:26 PM

Hi folks

One of my customers wants to transfer his vbulletin board (a small/medium one) with me... but he is asking to have a "mirror" server, he wants the information to be written in both different servers, so in case one fails, the other one is there for backup.

I obviously told him this is not necessary as this is a fun board... but he insists.

What can surpass offer?

**removed** · January 29th, 2008, 9:56 PM

We have a cluster service that we offer, but at least 3 servers are required.

CrEsT · January 29th, 2008, 11:23 PM

thanks removed

Can you provide a link with specs and prices?

Thanks!

**Geoff** · January 30th, 2008, 12:58 AM

my guess removed means any 3 of http://www.surpasshosting.com/content/servers.php ?

i really dont see how you would expect to accomplish this on shared hosting... as far as i know vbulletin just isnt designed to be mirrored live like that. like it wont write to multiple databases, etc.

unless removed has some shared clustering system up his sleeve i havent heard about:P

**removed** · January 30th, 2008, 1:52 AM

This is actually a custom setup that our NOC guys have put together. Please submit a ticket to sales and they will explain to you how it's all laid out.

**removed** · January 30th, 2008, 1:52 AM

Oh and yeah, you would need 3 dedicated servers to accomplish this. Not possible with shared accounts. Sorry!

cerjy · January 31st, 2008, 5:58 AM

a suggestion for a shared server, you could just set vbulletin to automaticly backup a few times a day. im sure theres SOME vbulletin hack that does it.

and in response to vbulletin being able to mirror like that, it can use two databases, not mirror'd but one for reading and one for writing,i THINK thats how its set up.

i also believe mysql has some way to set up two mirror'd servers, but any command exe'd on one would be ran on the other, so if someone DEL's your database you're still screwed.

and as him being a client..you may be able to create a 2nd account for him and have a script that'll run mysql queries between the main and backup databases? im just kinda thinking..in text here. wonder if that'd work >.> time to go waste 5 hours on this!

**twirp** · January 31st, 2008, 10:16 AM

I'm not sure how you'd do it with vBulletin, but one of the personal projects I'm dong for a friend is to have 2 shared accounts on different servers. There's a cronjob that runs every so often syncing the sites and another cronjob checking to see if the main server is up. Using a free dynamicDNS service like everydns.net, a script is ran to update the IP to the back-up account if the main account goes down and vise versa.

CrEsT · January 31st, 2008, 4:38 PM

Well, after talking to my customer he agreed to have the regular shared hosting.

But he's quite worried about a real backup solution in maybe a different location... I know this would be extra... what can surpass offer? any suggestions?

January 29th, 2008, 9:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
CrEsT Registered User Seasoned Poster Joined in Sep 2004 82 posts Gave thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	[Answered] Shared hosting. vBulletin running in 2 servers for reliability? Hi folks One of my customers wants to transfer his vbulletin board (a small/medium one) with me... but he is asking to have a "mirror" server, he wants the information to be written in both different servers, so in case one fails, the other one is there for backup. I obviously told him this is not necessary as this is a fun board... but he insists. What can surpass offer? __________________ Server: P30 http://www.enyum.com

January 29th, 2008, 9:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
removed Surpass Abuse Admin Super #1 Joined in Mar 2005 Lives in Houston, TX Hosted on NONE 7,784 posts Gave thanks: 10 Thanked 276 times	We have a cluster service that we offer, but at least 3 servers are required. __________________ Unofficial IRC Channel: #surpass EFNet Unofficial = No official support. Support requests can be submitted to our helpdesk.

January 29th, 2008, 11:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
CrEsT Registered User Seasoned Poster Joined in Sep 2004 82 posts Gave thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	thanks removed Can you provide a link with specs and prices? Thanks! __________________ Server: P30 http://www.enyum.com

January 30th, 2008, 12:58 AM	#4 (permalink)
Geoff Yabadabadoo Super #1 Joined in Nov 2004 Lives in B.C., Canada Hosted on Dedicated 1,013 posts Gave thanks: 7 Thanked 28 times	my guess removed means any 3 of http://www.surpasshosting.com/content/servers.php ? i really dont see how you would expect to accomplish this on shared hosting... as far as i know vbulletin just isnt designed to be mirrored live like that. like it wont write to multiple databases, etc. unless removed has some shared clustering system up his sleeve i havent heard about:P __________________ Geoff Ellis - Surpass Dedicated Server Customer www.adepttechs.net

January 30th, 2008, 1:52 AM	#5 (permalink)
removed Surpass Abuse Admin Super #1 Joined in Mar 2005 Lives in Houston, TX Hosted on NONE 7,784 posts Gave thanks: 10 Thanked 276 times	This is actually a custom setup that our NOC guys have put together. Please submit a ticket to sales and they will explain to you how it's all laid out. __________________ Unofficial IRC Channel: #surpass EFNet Unofficial = No official support. Support requests can be submitted to our helpdesk.

January 30th, 2008, 1:52 AM	#6 (permalink)
removed Surpass Abuse Admin Super #1 Joined in Mar 2005 Lives in Houston, TX Hosted on NONE 7,784 posts Gave thanks: 10 Thanked 276 times	Oh and yeah, you would need 3 dedicated servers to accomplish this. Not possible with shared accounts. Sorry! __________________ Unofficial IRC Channel: #surpass EFNet Unofficial = No official support. Support requests can be submitted to our helpdesk.

January 31st, 2008, 5:58 AM	#7 (permalink)
cerjy Registered User Fresh Surpasser Joined in Dec 2007 3 posts Gave thanks: 0 Thanked 0 times	a suggestion for a shared server, you could just set vbulletin to automaticly backup a few times a day. im sure theres SOME vbulletin hack that does it. and in response to vbulletin being able to mirror like that, it can use two databases, not mirror'd but one for reading and one for writing,i THINK thats how its set up. i also believe mysql has some way to set up two mirror'd servers, but any command exe'd on one would be ran on the other, so if someone DEL's your database you're still screwed. and as him being a client..you may be able to create a 2nd account for him and have a script that'll run mysql queries between the main and backup databases? im just kinda thinking..in text here. wonder if that'd work >.> time to go waste 5 hours on this!

January 31st, 2008, 10:16 AM	#8 (permalink)
twirp DemonicAngel Super #1 Joined in Aug 2004 Lives in Wherever The World Takes Me Hosted on Pass76 1,825 posts Gave thanks: 25 Thanked 35 times	I'm not sure how you'd do it with vBulletin, but one of the personal projects I'm dong for a friend is to have 2 shared accounts on different servers. There's a cronjob that runs every so often syncing the sites and another cronjob checking to see if the main server is up. Using a free dynamicDNS service like everydns.net, a script is ran to update the IP to the back-up account if the main account goes down and vise versa. __________________ You wear Vans so high school kids will think that you can skate. He wears Vans because he can skate. TwiRp wears Vans because they were on sale. Pass76 wants Vans.

January 31st, 2008, 4:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
CrEsT Registered User Seasoned Poster Joined in Sep 2004 82 posts Gave thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Well, after talking to my customer he agreed to have the regular shared hosting. But he's quite worried about a real backup solution in maybe a different location... I know this would be extra... what can surpass offer? any suggestions? __________________ Server: P30 http://www.enyum.com

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