Can you host sub-domain sites without hosting the main www.xyz site? - Page 2

newdles · May 8th, 2004, 1:36 AM

The downfall to setting up a redirection is that you'll never have statistics generated for the site. I've ran into the same issue and created a support ticket. You'll need add an A record as mentioned previously. You'll also need to contact support as they'll have to set it up for you unless you specified when created the account that sub.domainname.com would be pointing to it.

mikeh · May 11th, 2004, 12:55 PM

I can modify DNS settings and A-records. So.......

Can I host a sub-domain site without hosting the main site? It haven't seen an authoritative answer from someone who works for Surpass Hosting. And if the answer is YES, how do I set up the account?

I just read a message that sub-domains hosted on Surpass Hosting with a URL like http://subdomain.domain.com/ get resolved to http://www.domain.com/subdomain/ If this is true, then what I want will not be possible.

So how about an official answer? Thanks!

**patrickb** · May 11th, 2004, 8:42 PM

Well, official answer coming your way.

Yes, this can be done, since you have the necessary access to your DNS settings. What you need to do is signup for an account and use the TLD as the domain you want hosted. Because the DNS still points to your other servers, that main domain will never resolve to our server.

Then, once that is done, all you need to do is create the subdomains under your account with us, and set the A records to point to the server IP we give you after signup.

**fwwebs5** · May 11th, 2004, 8:57 PM

Won't that affect mail delivery from the Surpass server to the main domain server, unless the Surpass server's A and MX records are changed to point to the main server?

**patrickb** · May 11th, 2004, 9:14 PM

Yes, if he is using the subdomains email, we will have to change the MX entry on our server and do a couple of other things to get it to deliver to his other server.

mikeh · May 12th, 2004, 4:30 PM

Subdomain e-mail is not an issue and won't be used. Everything that was stated above now makes sense. But what about what I read about sub-domains hosted on Surpass Hosting with a URL like http://subdomain.domain.com/ getting resolved to http://www.domain.com/subdomain/ ? Does this occur in the browser address bar for visitors, or do they continue to see http://subdomain.domain.com/

?

And while I'm asking, is it possible to do the complete opposite of my original question? Can I host www.mydomain.com here, but host subdomain.mydomain.com elsewhere if I am using your DNS server and default primary and secondary nameserver info set with my registrar?

Thanks for the replies!

**Bigjohn** · May 12th, 2004, 5:03 PM

they see the subdomain reference.

part 2 would be up to the other host, because they'd have to put the A record in their DNS...

Why not just host it all here?

mikeh · May 12th, 2004, 7:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigjohn

they see the subdomain reference.

part 2 would be up to the other host, because they'd have to put the A record in their DNS...

I guess I didn't explain myself well. I am setting up an online gaming clan website here at Surpass Hosting. It would be nice to be able to have subdomains that resolve to our game and voice servers IPs. It's a little easier to remember and give out (sub)domain names rather than raw IP addresses usually used by online gamers. I see on http://www.surpasshosting.com/?x=hostingplans that all plans come with "Domain Name control at SurpassDomains.com" but I have yet to figure that out. If I can set additional A records free of charge here, that would be ideal.

Quote:

Why not just host it all here?

The original question was regarding another web project. The company I'm working for has an existing webserver, mailserver, and people who maintain that. I am completely separate from them. I need to setup an affiliated site (geared to a small developer community) and I'd rather use a subdomain of our branded name, rather than get a separate domain name. Make sense?

**Bigjohn** · May 12th, 2004, 7:36 PM

Yup! That makes it all clear.

May 8th, 2004, 1:36 AM	#10 (permalink)
newdles Registered User On a golden path... Joined in Apr 2004 306 posts Gave thanks: 0 Thanked 0 times	The downfall to setting up a redirection is that you'll never have statistics generated for the site. I've ran into the same issue and created a support ticket. You'll need add an A record as mentioned previously. You'll also need to contact support as they'll have to set it up for you unless you specified when created the account that sub.domainname.com would be pointing to it. __________________ My website - under construction Pass5 server

May 11th, 2004, 8:42 PM	#12 (permalink)
patrickb the one who was Super #1 Joined in Jul 2003 Lives in Memphis 1,967 posts Gave thanks: 0 Thanked 3 times	Well, official answer coming your way. Yes, this can be done, since you have the necessary access to your DNS settings. What you need to do is signup for an account and use the TLD as the domain you want hosted. Because the DNS still points to your other servers, that main domain will never resolve to our server. Then, once that is done, all you need to do is create the subdomains under your account with us, and set the A records to point to the server IP we give you after signup. __________________ Patrick Warnings: The program(s) might crash unexpectedly or behave otherwise strangely. (But of course, so do many commercial programs on Windows.) --www.gimp.org

May 11th, 2004, 8:57 PM	#13 (permalink)
fwwebs5 Surpass Fan On a golden path... Joined in Nov 2003 432 posts Gave thanks: 0 Thanked 0 times	Won't that affect mail delivery from the Surpass server to the main domain server, unless the Surpass server's A and MX records are changed to point to the main server? __________________ Fw Web Solutions http://fwwebs.com

May 11th, 2004, 9:14 PM	#14 (permalink)
patrickb the one who was Super #1 Joined in Jul 2003 Lives in Memphis 1,967 posts Gave thanks: 0 Thanked 3 times	Yes, if he is using the subdomains email, we will have to change the MX entry on our server and do a couple of other things to get it to deliver to his other server. __________________ Patrick Warnings: The program(s) might crash unexpectedly or behave otherwise strangely. (But of course, so do many commercial programs on Windows.) --www.gimp.org

May 12th, 2004, 5:03 PM	#16 (permalink)
Bigjohn minor deity Super #1 Joined in Apr 2004 Lives in Georgia Hosted on XEON 7,394 posts Gave thanks: 28 Thanked 94 times	they see the subdomain reference. part 2 would be up to the other host, because they'd have to put the A record in their DNS... Why not just host it all here? __________________ Proud to be a Surmunity Mod! XEON PASS60 PASS61 Make a fundamental difference! My Sites: Curious about Brewing Beer? Join the community! >>>>> Some Change is GOOD! Keep your paycheck! Support the Fair Tax Get into an Art museum Victorian London It's your brain -*ON WEB* - mybrainhost.com (under development) What SHOULD Government do? Much Less than it Does!

May 11th, 2004, 12:55 PM	#11 (permalink)
mikeh Registered User Seasoned Poster Joined in May 2004 Hosted on spiffy 41 posts Gave thanks: 0 Thanked 0 times	I can modify DNS settings and A-records. So....... Can I host a sub-domain site without hosting the main site? It haven't seen an authoritative answer from someone who works for Surpass Hosting. And if the answer is YES, how do I set up the account? I just read a message that sub-domains hosted on Surpass Hosting with a URL like http://subdomain.domain.com/ get resolved to http://www.domain.com/subdomain/ If this is true, then what I want will not be possible. So how about an official answer? Thanks!

May 12th, 2004, 4:30 PM	#15 (permalink)
mikeh Registered User Seasoned Poster Joined in May 2004 Hosted on spiffy 41 posts Gave thanks: 0 Thanked 0 times	Subdomain e-mail is not an issue and won't be used. Everything that was stated above now makes sense. But what about what I read about sub-domains hosted on Surpass Hosting with a URL like http://subdomain.domain.com/ getting resolved to http://www.domain.com/subdomain/ ? Does this occur in the browser address bar for visitors, or do they continue to see http://subdomain.domain.com/ ? And while I'm asking, is it possible to do the complete opposite of my original question? Can I host www.mydomain.com here, but host subdomain.mydomain.com elsewhere if I am using your DNS server and default primary and secondary nameserver info set with my registrar? Thanks for the replies!

May 12th, 2004, 7:36 PM	#18 (permalink)
Bigjohn minor deity Super #1 Joined in Apr 2004 Lives in Georgia Hosted on XEON 7,394 posts Gave thanks: 28 Thanked 94 times	Yup! That makes it all clear. __________________ Proud to be a Surmunity Mod! XEON PASS60 PASS61 Make a fundamental difference! My Sites: Curious about Brewing Beer? Join the community! >>>>> Some Change is GOOD! Keep your paycheck! Support the Fair Tax Get into an Art museum Victorian London It's your brain -*ON WEB* - mybrainhost.com (under development) What SHOULD Government do? Much Less than it Does!

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