CMS and interaction in reselling

dazz williams · May 18th, 2006, 10:16 PM

I'm considering buying some reseller hosting space from Surpass, but have a few questions as I'm still considering my options.
I was reading through the [reseller?] forums recently and saw someone mention CMS. Do the reseller packages come with any sort of Content Management System that my potential customers could use to make simple (text...) update to their websites?
Also, when I sell a package/space to a customer do I have my own brand name and Surpass Hosting is invisible in the backend? Meaning I'd take care of the billing and create the customer's space in WHM w/out my customer directly interacting with/seeing Surpass Hosting?
Thanks in advance for your help.

dazz.

**Rai** · May 18th, 2006, 10:29 PM

Yes and yes.

All resellers come with Fantastico, which will install a variety of different CMS at the click of a button. They also come with Click Be, which you can read about further by doing a search, which is very easy to use.

Unless your customer's are really intense, they will never know you are a reseller through Surpass... provided you do set up your personal dns (it comes with all resellers, but you do have to make sure its set up through your domain registar). If they use the right whois search, they can find out the location and name of the datacenter their site is hosted at, though it actually links back to HostDime, not Surpass (they're associate companies, but they are seperate). However, most common users don't make that connection, and even if they do, you can explain that they own the datacenter you rent space in.

dazz williams · May 19th, 2006, 1:29 AM

Rai: Thanks for the quick response.

Regarding CMS, I took a look at the info link beside Fantastico. Are these installed with Deluxe (nice and easy!

? Also, maybe someone can help me find a specific CMS feature I'm having trouble pinpointing. Some of the websites I'll do will most likely be for real estate agents. I'd love to be able to offer them the ability to easily update a specific "House Listings" page on their website w/out having to go through me by sending me pictures and house descriptions. Something that they can goto on the web, plug in some info, click Update, and the new listing is on their website. Simple and easy for them since they're not webmasters.
Examples of what I'm talking about:
http://www.risto.ca - The "Our Listings" section
http://www.hunking.com - The "My Listings" section
Does Fantastico have any CMS features like that, or am I better off writing one myself?
Thanks!
dazz.

**Kayla** · May 19th, 2006, 2:01 AM

There are many programs, free or paid, that can do that:

http://php.resourceindex.com/Complet...s/Real_Estate/

http://www.hotscripts.com/PHP/Script...ate/index.html

The program in Fantastico for real estate listings is called Open Realty:

http://www.open-realty.org/

You can see all Fantastico scripts on this page:
http://netenberg.com/fantastico_scripts.php

dazz williams · May 19th, 2006, 2:52 AM

Wow, I totally missed the Open-Realty feature when I was looking at the Fantastico Scripts page. :S Thanks for pointing it out Kayla!
The Open-Realty script is pretty much exactly what I was talking about. I see that the demo only has US states listed... but I'll look around the website some more and see if that's customizable for Canada.
Surpass Hosting reseller packages come with Fantastico I see. When I create an account/web space with WHM for a customer, how easy/hard is it for me to install/setup that (or any) specific Fantastico script for them to use?
Thanks,
dazz.

**Kayla** · May 19th, 2006, 4:35 AM

Fantastico's purpose is to be able to set up any of those scripts with just a few clicks, it does the installation for you.

May 18th, 2006, 10:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
dazz williams Registered User Seasoned Poster Joined in May 2006 Lives in Ontario, Canada Hosted on Pass59 53 posts Gave thanks: 2 Thanked 0 times	CMS and interaction in reselling I'm considering buying some reseller hosting space from Surpass, but have a few questions as I'm still considering my options. I was reading through the [reseller?] forums recently and saw someone mention CMS. Do the reseller packages come with any sort of Content Management System that my potential customers could use to make simple (text...) update to their websites? Also, when I sell a package/space to a customer do I have my own brand name and Surpass Hosting is invisible in the backend? Meaning I'd take care of the billing and create the customer's space in WHM w/out my customer directly interacting with/seeing Surpass Hosting? Thanks in advance for your help. dazz. __________________ "My ICQ is on invisible, like an internet submarine. I can see them, but they can't see me." - The Holiday Wrecker http://revolutionthis.blogspot.com www.KylerAyim.com Friendly and professional computer solutions for home and business. Freelance website design, hosting, web development, and more.

May 18th, 2006, 10:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
Rai Senior Member Super #1 Joined in Nov 2003 Lives in Canada Hosted on Pass14 3,770 posts Gave thanks: 4 Thanked 20 times	Yes and yes. All resellers come with Fantastico, which will install a variety of different CMS at the click of a button. They also come with Click Be, which you can read about further by doing a search, which is very easy to use. Unless your customer's are really intense, they will never know you are a reseller through Surpass... provided you do set up your personal dns (it comes with all resellers, but you do have to make sure its set up through your domain registar). If they use the right whois search, they can find out the location and name of the datacenter their site is hosted at, though it actually links back to HostDime, not Surpass (they're associate companies, but they are seperate). However, most common users don't make that connection, and even if they do, you can explain that they own the datacenter you rent space in. __________________

May 19th, 2006, 1:29 AM	#3 (permalink)
dazz williams Registered User Seasoned Poster Joined in May 2006 Lives in Ontario, Canada Hosted on Pass59 53 posts Gave thanks: 2 Thanked 0 times	Rai: Thanks for the quick response. Regarding CMS, I took a look at the info link beside Fantastico. Are these installed with Deluxe (nice and easy! ? Also, maybe someone can help me find a specific CMS feature I'm having trouble pinpointing. Some of the websites I'll do will most likely be for real estate agents. I'd love to be able to offer them the ability to easily update a specific "House Listings" page on their website w/out having to go through me by sending me pictures and house descriptions. Something that they can goto on the web, plug in some info, click Update, and the new listing is on their website. Simple and easy for them since they're not webmasters. Examples of what I'm talking about: http://www.risto.ca - The "Our Listings" section http://www.hunking.com - The "My Listings" section Does Fantastico have any CMS features like that, or am I better off writing one myself? Thanks! dazz. __________________ "My ICQ is on invisible, like an internet submarine. I can see them, but they can't see me." - The Holiday Wrecker http://revolutionthis.blogspot.com www.KylerAyim.com Friendly and professional computer solutions for home and business. Freelance website design, hosting, web development, and more.

May 19th, 2006, 2:01 AM	#4 (permalink)
Kayla Marketing Maven Surpass Staff Joined in May 2003 Lives in Orlando 24,749 posts Gave thanks: 946 Thanked 806 times	There are many programs, free or paid, that can do that: http://php.resourceindex.com/Complet...s/Real_Estate/ http://www.hotscripts.com/PHP/Script...ate/index.html The program in Fantastico for real estate listings is called Open Realty: http://www.open-realty.org/ You can see all Fantastico scripts on this page: http://netenberg.com/fantastico_scripts.php __________________ Follow Surpass on Twitter and Facebook Check out the Surpass Blog

May 19th, 2006, 2:52 AM	#5 (permalink)
dazz williams Registered User Seasoned Poster Joined in May 2006 Lives in Ontario, Canada Hosted on Pass59 53 posts Gave thanks: 2 Thanked 0 times	Wow, I totally missed the Open-Realty feature when I was looking at the Fantastico Scripts page. :S Thanks for pointing it out Kayla! The Open-Realty script is pretty much exactly what I was talking about. I see that the demo only has US states listed... but I'll look around the website some more and see if that's customizable for Canada. Surpass Hosting reseller packages come with Fantastico I see. When I create an account/web space with WHM for a customer, how easy/hard is it for me to install/setup that (or any) specific Fantastico script for them to use? Thanks, dazz. __________________ "My ICQ is on invisible, like an internet submarine. I can see them, but they can't see me." - The Holiday Wrecker http://revolutionthis.blogspot.com www.KylerAyim.com Friendly and professional computer solutions for home and business. Freelance website design, hosting, web development, and more.

May 19th, 2006, 4:35 AM	#6 (permalink)
Kayla Marketing Maven Surpass Staff Joined in May 2003 Lives in Orlando 24,749 posts Gave thanks: 946 Thanked 806 times	Fantastico's purpose is to be able to set up any of those scripts with just a few clicks, it does the installation for you. __________________ Follow Surpass on Twitter and Facebook Check out the Surpass Blog

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