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Old October 21st, 2006, 9:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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php5 only servers?

does surpass have servers with only php5?

apparently, when you use php on the servers (at least mine) that has both php5 and php4, if you run php5, you cannot change local settings (register globals, etc etc). thi sis because with php5, it runs as CGI compiled, and you cannot use php.ini to change the settings. you can either live without it, or use php4

Looks like the phpsuexec implementation is a little premature, as it has already presented problems.

running php5, I cannot even start a session. it tries to write the session file to /tmp , but running as phpsuexec, I am running under my own user name, and it is forbidding me write access to that directory. I cannot change where sessions write their files because I am unable to change any settings with thephp.ini file (phpsuexec already disables changing settings using .htaccess)

I suggest surpass disable the use and advertisement of php5 +php4. its implementation is premature. I'd be scared to run php5 right now, as register_globals is on, and I am unable to change any settings. I cant even start a session.

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Unfortunately, when a server is compiled with php 4 + 5, you cannot edit the local setting of php5 when it is compiled as CGI. Only option you have is to switch to php5 only server or to switch to php compiled as module.
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I would not think they would have shared servers with only php5 as there are some apps that probably still require php4 to work.

Have you thought of moving to a VPS ever? You can run php5 only in a VPS if choose to do so. You have complete control over your own environment in a VPS.
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Hehe.. I suggested PHP5 only servers probably a year ago. I might try to talk Paul into scrapping PHP4 on webdev servers
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unfortunately, i cannot afford the VPS service. I mainly have my website as a play toy to learn new languages and ideas. so the cost/benefit ratio isn't good for me at this point. It is just too much overkill for me for what I need. Unfortunately, because of my desire to learn/use php5, i might end up having to leave surpass, which would be hard to do. Been here for a long time, and I haven't found another hosting company that offers as much as surpass.

but what is VPS exactly? is it like dedicated? a better explanation might be nice. Do I get everything I want that I get from the Shared service? Do I have to manage and install everything myself?
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Virtual Private Server... It's essentially a shared server with allocated resources for each user.

I'm sorta waiting on a response from Paul. We may have good news on the PHP5 front. Though it's being relayed through Kayla as my e-mails to Paul kept getting rejected.
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but what is VPS exactly? is it like dedicated? a better explanation might be nice. Do I get everything I want that I get from the Shared service? Do I have to manage and install everything myself?
I believe the VPS's here at Surpass are fully managed, so I believe support takes care of most things that people usually has to take care of themselves in an unmanaged dedicated server.

However, a plus is that you can install and change things yourself which gives you the ability to start learning to manage your own server.

A VPS is a dedicated server using Virtual server technology that can have many virtual spaces in one machine. What happens in your space, stays in your space. This is why you can customize it any way that you want.
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Yes Surpass VPS is fully managed.
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Virtual Private Server... It's essentially a shared server with allocated resources for each user.

I'm sorta waiting on a response from Paul. We may have good news on the PHP5 front. Though it's being relayed through Kayla as my e-mails to Paul kept getting rejected.
i guess ill wait to see what happens with php5 and surpass.

in meantime, id rather stay with surpass, so ill have to think about the vps option
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